i think obama has done a great job at setting a stage for a new kind of multi-lateralism for the u.s. as a partner in the world, and who he picks really matters. >> it matters what the public thinks of that person. susan rice is probably someone nobody knew who she was. >> some probably think she's currently the secretary. >> what's happened is if susan rice has taken a beating. we look at her favorability now in the new nbc news-wall street journal poll -- our poll -- it shows she only has a 20% favorable rating. neutral 25%. disapproval, 24%. for someone that isn't that well known, she has been associated with just this fight and just benghazi. >> the biggest number at all is most people don't know enough about her to make up their opinion. as we know, the way politics worse is that absence two sides of a debate, one side will win. if there is one piece of information, it's all been pretty negative about her so far. i do think there is a risk for republicans regardless of whether they will say that if they proceed with a pretty ugly i think there are problems with terms of tone and